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Euthymius	Waite opposes GAR but Burgon Society compatriot Sightler endorses her...	Lead	[-]
Posts: 2176 (10/27/2009 09:49:31) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None Something doesn't make sense here... James Sightler is one of Waite's leading Burgon Society members, having spoken before the Society many times, as well as attending and being cheerfully welcomed at even the most recent Waite meetings in SC. <http://search.atomz.com/s...&sp_f=iso-8859-1> Therefore, Sightler (theoretically) should be opposing KJVOism of the Riplinger/Ruckman "inspired KJV" variety (to do otherwise supposedly would get you expelled from the Burgon Society, and has done so for others in the past). Yet one now finds Sightler wholeheartedly endorsing GAR's proven error-filled HazMat volume as "an admirable extension of New Age Bible Versions and In Awe of Thy Word": "I am happy to give my complete endorsement to Dr. Gail Riplinger's new book *Hazardous Materials, Greek and Hebrew Study Dangers, The Voice of Strangers*." James H. Sightler, M.D. www.sightlerpublications.com Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, Class of 1968 Greer, SC October 10, 2009 <http://www.hacalumni.com/> The remainder of Sightler's comments that follow amount to nothing more than a summary of contents and discussion by GAR in HazMat, repeating even some of the lies and falsehoods already documented on the BVDB in the "Falsehoods of Hazmat" thread (e.g., that Ginsburg was " a mystical kabbalist admirer of Madame Blavatsky") -- a level of embarrassment that one would theoretically want to avoid, you would think!). He further continues with GAR's peculiar claim that "some of the 'originals' may not have been in Greek," as well as endorsing GAR's final chapter of HazMat which "gives seven great proofs of the inspiration of the King James Bible with which any believer should agree and which I endorse" -- including Mr Verbally Nasty Filipino's great "mathematical proof" discussed elsewhere on the BVDB! Sightler concludes, "It is good that this book is now on the record, and it is well worth the time and diligence of any reader who is interested in the truth." Whatta crock! And one really must wonder how this endorsement will play out within the Burgon Society (of which Sightler is a respected member, and even formerly if not currently on the DBS Executive Board!), given that Society member Kirk DiVietro has been given the assignment by Waite to write a lengthy refutation of Riplinger's HazMat volume! Waite: "Dr. James Sightler, has been a personal friend of mine for almost ten years. The son of a godly Bible expositor and Pastor, Dr. Harold Sightler, he is truly a humble servant of the Lord Jesus Christ. Since 1990, he has served our DEAN BURGON SOCIETY as a valued member of the Executive Committee." <http://www.fbinstitute.co...ghtler/endorsed.html> Time for Burgon Society fireworks, methinks.... Last Edited By: Euthymius 10/27/2009 10:47:51. Edited 2 times.
Euthymius		#1	[-]
Posts: 2177 (10/27/2009 10:37:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Despite Sightler's claims and alignment with Riplinger on the "inspired KJV" issue, here for the record is Waite's Burgon Society resolution on that matter, with clear rejection and prohibition of such a term by Burgon Society members (quoted from Jeffrey Khoo, The Burning Bush 13:1 (Jan. 2007) <http://www.febc.edu.sg/BBVol13_1e.htm>; the original Burgon Society document in full PDF format is at <http://www.deanburgonsoci...le_Inspiration.pdf>): ============ As a matter of fact, the Dean Burgon Society which believes in VPP and defends the KJV frowns upon any reference to the KJV as "inspired" or "given by inspiration." The Dean Burgon Society clearly states its official position on the Bible's "Inspiration" thus, Whereas, in all of the official documents of the Dean Burgon Society, the terms "God breathed," or "inspired" are never used when referring to the King James Bible, but, on the contrary, there is a clear avoidance of calling the King James Bible "inspired," and Whereas, in all of the official documents of the Dean Burgon Society, the terms "breathed out," "inspired," or "inspiration" are reserved exclusively for the Words of the original Hebrew/Aramaic and Greek manuscripts or for the exact copies of those Words that God has been [sic] preserved for us today, and Whereas, in all of the official documents of the Dean Burgon Society, the terms used for the King James Bible (or Authorized Version) are as follows: (1) a "true, faithful, and accurate translation," (2) a translation that "has no equal among all of the other English translations," (3) "the Word of God,"(4) "an accurate translation of the true, inerrant, infallible Word of God," (5) the "true Word of God" in a faithful language translation, (6) "the God-honored, most accurate, and best translation," (7) a translation that occupies an "honored position," ( 8 ) a translation that has our "confidence," and (9) we "continue to recommend its continued use in Bible believing church pulpits, Pastors' studies, home, Bible School classes, and formal classes in Bible Institutes, colleges and theological seminaries," therefore Be It Resolved, that all members of the Dean Burgon Society and members of the Executive Committee and Advisory Council particularly follow the teachings and references found in our official documents when referring either to the original language texts of Hebrew/Aramaic or Greek or to the King James Bible, especially regarding the technical distinctions that are made therein with regard to "inspire," "inspiration," and other terms. Last Edited By: Euthymius 10/27/2009 10:41:56. Edited 1 times.
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Posts: 3526 (10/27/2009 11:23:17) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Euthymius wrote: Despite Sightler's claims and alignment with Riplinger on the "inspired KJV" issue, here for the record is Waite's Burgon Society resolution on that matter, with clear rejection and prohibition of such a term by Burgon Society members (quoted from Jeffrey Khoo, The Burning Bush 13:1 (Jan. 2007) <http://www.febc.edu.sg/BBVol13_1e.htm>; the original Burgon Society document in full PDF format is at <http://www.deanburgonsoci...le_Inspiration.pdf>): ============ As a matter of fact, the Dean Burgon Society which believes in VPP and defends the KJV frowns upon any reference to the KJV as "inspired" or "given by inspiration." The Dean Burgon Society clearly states its official position on the Bible's "Inspiration" thus, Whereas, in all of the official documents of the Dean Burgon Society, the terms "God breathed," or "inspired" are never used when referring to the King James Bible, but, on the contrary, there is a clear avoidance of calling the King James Bible "inspired," and Whereas, in all of the official documents of the Dean Burgon Society, the terms "breathed out," "inspired," or "inspiration" are reserved exclusively for the Words of the original Hebrew/Aramaic and Greek manuscripts or for the exact copies of those Words that God has been [sic] preserved for us today, and Whereas, in all of the official documents of the Dean Burgon Society, the terms used for the King James Bible (or Authorized Version) are as follows: (1) a "true, faithful, and accurate translation," (2) a translation that "has no equal among all of the other English translations," (3) "the Word of God,"(4) "an accurate translation of the true, inerrant, infallible Word of God," (5) the "true Word of God" in a faithful language translation, (6) "the God-honored, most accurate, and best translation," (7) a translation that occupies an "honored position," ( 8 ) a translation that has our "confidence," and (9) we "continue to recommend its continued use in Bible believing church pulpits, Pastors' studies, home, Bible School classes, and formal classes in Bible Institutes, colleges and theological seminaries," therefore Be It Resolved, that all members of the Dean Burgon Society and members of the Executive Committee and Advisory Council particularly follow the teachings and references found in our official documents when referring either to the original language texts of Hebrew/Aramaic or Greek or to the King James Bible, especially regarding the technical distinctions that are made therein with regard to "inspire," "inspiration," and other terms. funny, instead of properly n biblically defining the term, they end up repudiating the inspiration of God's Words in the KJB n elsewhere. funnier, they'd fight for the inerrancy of the KJB while denying its inspiration. what happens when a buncha wannabe theologians try to make it up as they go! Joseph Ng "For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven." Ps 119:89 KJB
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Posts: 1293 (10/27/2009 11:43:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Well, it appears there is an awful lot of confusion occurring at the DBS. And all I can say about that is: "God is not the author of confusion."
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Posts: 1294 (10/27/2009 11:52:41) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	One more thing: I am more convinced as time goes on that people like GAR, Rucky, Sightler, Grady, and others who "align" themselves with the same evil, confusing cause, are working together against God's people. They hate God's word, they hate the church, and most likely hate God, too, whoever/whatever they really believe He is. These people are not as stupid as they come off. They know what they are doing and there is a design to how they do it. Ruckman's been writing ridiculous propaganda for at least four decades. There isn't much that can be done to stop them, BUT those who love the truth can write exposés of their lies, as Euthy has done, and others. Scripture says to reprove (rebuke) "the unfruitful works of darkness" and have "no fellowship" with them. Kind of gives us an idea of what God thinks of them. This continued confusion in the KJO camp is a reminder that we need to keep speaking/writing the truth, even when we think it seems futile. Even if it helps only one person be set free from GAR's lies, Ruckman's ridiculous doctrines, etc., it's worth the time. Sometimes I really wish that the Apostle Paul could be here in this age of the church so that he could deal with these damnable heresies.

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