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The Messiahist	Oneness Doctrine SMASHED to PIECES.	Lead	[-]
Posts: 17 (05/06/2009 06:13:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ יְהוָה אֶחָֽד׃ וְאָהַבְתָּ אֵת יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ בְּכָל־לְבָבְךָ וּבְכָל־נַפְשְׁךָ וּבְכָל־מְאֹדֶֽךָ The Messiahist, Y.A.N., Son of EL ELYON. The Way of God
The Messiahist		#1	[-]
Posts: 18 (05/06/2009 06:16:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ יְהוָה אֶחָֽד׃ וְאָהַבְתָּ אֵת יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ בְּכָל־לְבָבְךָ וּבְכָל־נַפְשְׁךָ וּבְכָל־מְאֹדֶֽךָ The Messiahist, Y.A.N., Son of EL ELYON. The Way of God
The Messiahist		#2	[-]
Posts: 19 (05/06/2009 06:18:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ יְהוָה אֶחָֽד׃ וְאָהַבְתָּ אֵת יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ בְּכָל־לְבָבְךָ וּבְכָל־נַפְשְׁךָ וּבְכָל־מְאֹדֶֽךָ The Messiahist, Y.A.N., Son of EL ELYON. The Way of God
The Messiahist		#3	[-]
Posts: 20 (05/06/2009 06:20:13) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ יְהוָה אֶחָֽד׃ וְאָהַבְתָּ אֵת יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ בְּכָל־לְבָבְךָ וּבְכָל־נַפְשְׁךָ וּבְכָל־מְאֹדֶֽךָ The Messiahist, Y.A.N., Son of EL ELYON. The Way of God
The Messiahist		#4	[-]
Posts: 21 (05/06/2009 06:23:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ יְהוָה אֶחָֽד׃ וְאָהַבְתָּ אֵת יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ בְּכָל־לְבָבְךָ וּבְכָל־נַפְשְׁךָ וּבְכָל־מְאֹדֶֽךָ The Messiahist, Y.A.N., Son of EL ELYON. The Way of God
The Messiahist		#5	[-]
Posts: 22 (05/06/2009 06:26:34) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ יְהוָה אֶחָֽד׃ וְאָהַבְתָּ אֵת יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ בְּכָל־לְבָבְךָ וּבְכָל־נַפְשְׁךָ וּבְכָל־מְאֹדֶֽךָ The Messiahist, Y.A.N., Son of EL ELYON. The Way of God
SAWBONES		#6	[-]
Posts: 109 (05/06/2009 06:55:09) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	You'd have to have some pretty captivating things to say for me to watch even two minutes of monologue video, much less a whole hour! You're just wasting bandwidth by imbedding these videos. If you have something to say, go ahead and try to say it using the printed word. The BB is a format for discussion.
BrianT		#7	[-]
Posts: 1688 (05/07/2009 19:37:56) ezOP Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I agree. This forum is not intended to be a blog site. Messiahist, I recommend blogger.com or similar. Brian
Scott McClare		#8	[-]
Posts: 2964 (05/07/2009 22:36:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	So if The Messiahist is against the Trinity, and he's against Oneness, how many persons are in the Godhead, anyway? Take care, Scott Gutless and Spineless Person #3 Whiny Crybaby Moderator, Bible Versions Discussion Board -- Scott A. McClare, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada mcclare@ncf.ca * ICQ #24034503 * AIM RansomOttawa Stepping Right Up to the KJV-only Sideshow since 2001
jerryrose		#9	[-]
Posts: 294 (05/19/2009 18:09:49) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Messiahist, why not just concern yourself with preaching the Bible, instead of trying to prove others wrong. If you speak the truth, then their lies will be exposed, but you do not need to discuss their doctrine, just discuss Bible doctrine. I admit I should follow my own advice sometimes. Here is my take. Jesus is the Son of man, and the Son of God, born of the Holy Ghost. The Son of man is the temple of the Son of God, concieved of the Holy Ghost. He is the Word who took on a body prepared by his Father by the power of his Word and the Holy Ghost. The reason Christ calls God his Father is because that body was concieved of God. The reason he said he beheld the fall of Satan is because the Word is the one who indwells that temple, and the one who spoke every word that he spoke. Jesus is three in one, just as every other man is, only his body is the Church, his soul is the Father, and his spirit is the Holy Ghost (the seven Spirits of God), which are in the Father, the one who speaks the Word that is accomplished by the Spirit of God. Make sense??? I didn't think so..... don't mind such high things and just believe the Bible for we look through a glass darkly. "Lord, my heart is not haughty, nor mine eyes lofty: neither do I exercise myself in great matters, or in things too high for me." Psalms 131:1
77		#10	[-]
Posts: 453 (05/19/2009 18:36:29) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	jerryrose: "why not just concern yourself with preaching the Bible, instead of trying to prove others wrong." 77: Physician, heal thyself! "Truly, good Christian reader, we never thought from the beginning, that we should need to make a new Translation, nor yet to make of a bad one of a good one ... but to make a good one better, or out of many good ones, one principle good one, not justly to be expected against; that hath been our endeavor, that our mark."
BrianT		#11	[-]
Posts: 1755 (05/19/2009 18:51:18) ezOP Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	"Jesus is three in one, just as every other man is, only his body is the Church, his soul is the Father, and his spirit is the Holy Ghost" Then what was his physical body? What did Thomas touch? Brian
jerryrose		#12	[-]
Posts: 296 (05/19/2009 21:27:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thomas touched the resurrected Lord, which is the word of life, or the engrafted word. He touched it by faith, in obedience to the Word. He laid hold of eternal life (which is to do the will of God), for spiritually he was of that body as well. You are saying that the Church is not the body of Christ????
Scott McClare		#13	[-]
Posts: 3038 (05/19/2009 22:56:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	jerryrose said: Jesus is the Son of man, and the Son of God, born of the Holy Ghost. The Son of man is the temple of the Son of God, concieved of the Holy Ghost. He is the Word who took on a body prepared by his Father by the power of his Word and the Holy Ghost. The reason Christ calls God his Father is because that body was concieved of God. The reason he said he beheld the fall of Satan is because the Word is the one who indwells that temple, and the one who spoke every word that he spoke. Jesus is three in one, just as every other man is, only his body is the Church, his soul is the Father, and his spirit is the Holy Ghost (the seven Spirits of God), which are in the Father, the one who speaks the Word that is accomplished by the Spirit of God. Make sense??? I didn't think so..... don't mind such high things and just believe the Bible for we look through a glass darkly. This train wreck ought to be printed in bright colours on big posters along with the warning, "This is why God gave learned men to the Church and you should pay attention in Sunday school." Who wants to play Spot the Heresy? I counted two on first reading: Adoptionism and Modalism. Anyone else want to take a stab? Take care, Scott Gutless and Spineless Person #3 Whiny Crybaby Moderator, Bible Versions Discussion Board -- Scott A. McClare, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada mcclare@ncf.ca * ICQ #24034503 * AIM RansomOttawa Stepping Right Up to the KJV-only Sideshow since 2001
Armchair Scholar		#14	[-]
Posts: 947 (05/20/2009 08:13:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Scott McClare wrote: jerryrose said: Jesus is the Son of man, and the Son of God, born of the Holy Ghost. The Son of man is the temple of the Son of God, concieved of the Holy Ghost. He is the Word who took on a body prepared by his Father by the power of his Word and the Holy Ghost. The reason Christ calls God his Father is because that body was concieved of God. The reason he said he beheld the fall of Satan is because the Word is the one who indwells that temple, and the one who spoke every word that he spoke. Jesus is three in one, just as every other man is, only his body is the Church, his soul is the Father, and his spirit is the Holy Ghost (the seven Spirits of God), which are in the Father, the one who speaks the Word that is accomplished by the Spirit of God. Make sense??? I didn't think so..... don't mind such high things and just believe the Bible for we look through a glass darkly. This train wreck ought to be printed in bright colours on big posters along with the warning, "This is why God gave learned men to the Church and you should pay attention in Sunday school." Who wants to play Spot the Heresy? I counted two on first reading: Adoptionism and Modalism. Anyone else want to take a stab? Has anyone mentioned denial of the eternal Sonship of Christ yet? If so, I apologize for the repeat.
jerryrose		#15	[-]
Posts: 297 (05/20/2009 08:23:35) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Scott McClare wrote: jerryrose said: Jesus is the Son of man, and the Son of God, born of the Holy Ghost. The Son of man is the temple of the Son of God, concieved of the Holy Ghost. He is the Word who took on a body prepared by his Father by the power of his Word and the Holy Ghost. The reason Christ calls God his Father is because that body was concieved of God. The reason he said he beheld the fall of Satan is because the Word is the one who indwells that temple, and the one who spoke every word that he spoke. Jesus is three in one, just as every other man is, only his body is the Church, his soul is the Father, and his spirit is the Holy Ghost (the seven Spirits of God), which are in the Father, the one who speaks the Word that is accomplished by the Spirit of God. Make sense??? I didn't think so..... don't mind such high things and just believe the Bible for we look through a glass darkly. This train wreck ought to be printed in bright colours on big posters along with the warning, "This is why God gave learned men to the Church and you should pay attention in Sunday school." Who wants to play Spot the Heresy? I counted two on first reading: Adoptionism and Modalism. Anyone else want to take a stab? "But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him." 1 John 2:27
jerryrose		#16	[-]
Posts: 298 (05/20/2009 08:27:55) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Armchair Scholar wrote: Scott McClare wrote: jerryrose said: Jesus is the Son of man, and the Son of God, born of the Holy Ghost. The Son of man is the temple of the Son of God, concieved of the Holy Ghost. He is the Word who took on a body prepared by his Father by the power of his Word and the Holy Ghost. The reason Christ calls God his Father is because that body was concieved of God. The reason he said he beheld the fall of Satan is because the Word is the one who indwells that temple, and the one who spoke every word that he spoke. Jesus is three in one, just as every other man is, only his body is the Church, his soul is the Father, and his spirit is the Holy Ghost (the seven Spirits of God), which are in the Father, the one who speaks the Word that is accomplished by the Spirit of God. Make sense??? I didn't think so..... don't mind such high things and just believe the Bible for we look through a glass darkly. This train wreck ought to be printed in bright colours on big posters along with the warning, "This is why God gave learned men to the Church and you should pay attention in Sunday school." Who wants to play Spot the Heresy? I counted two on first reading: Adoptionism and Modalism. Anyone else want to take a stab? Has anyone mentioned denial of the eternal Sonship of Christ yet? If so, I apologize for the repeat. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God." John 1:1,2. verse 14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." Never denied that he is the Word. You just lack understanding, but that's ok Armchair, hold fast that which you have. Only get more understanding, lest the Lord take that which you have.
BrianT		#17	[-]
Posts: 1758 (05/20/2009 08:29:56) ezOP Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	So when lone-ranger Pope Jerry who is anointed disagrees with someone else who is anointed, are both opposing positions the Truth? Is Jerry using 1 John 2:27 to claim infallibility? Brian
Scott McClare		#18	[-]
Posts: 3040 (05/20/2009 08:31:06) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	You have no anointing, Jerry. You have your own fallible understanding of the Bible, coupled with an arrogant refusal to listen to the wisdom of the teachers God has given the church down through the centuries to the present day. That is a dangerous combination. Be careful that you do not wrest the Scriptures to your own destruction (2 Peter 3:16). Take care, Scott Gutless and Spineless Person #3 Whiny Crybaby Moderator, Bible Versions Discussion Board -- Scott A. McClare, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada mcclare@ncf.ca * ICQ #24034503 * AIM RansomOttawa Stepping Right Up to the KJV-only Sideshow since 2001
BrianT		#19	[-]
Posts: 1759 (05/20/2009 08:39:24) ezOP Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Jerry said "Only get more understanding" Translation from Jerryism: "don't actually study anything (those nasty edyoomakayshunned folks are fallible liars), but just make it up as you go - but remember if you come to a different conclusion that mine (which changes and contradicts itself from moment to moment) then you did it wrong and are deceived" Brian
jerryrose		#20	[-]
Posts: 306 (05/20/2009 12:35:09) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	BrianT wrote: So when lone-ranger Pope Jerry who is anointed disagrees with someone else who is anointed, are both opposing positions the Truth? Is Jerry using 1 John 2:27 to claim infallibility? No, if a son of God heard me teaching false doctrine, he would show me with Scripture and not the understanding of men, the understanding of the world. The Truth does not oppose itself, one of us is of the Truth, the other is not. You refuse to turn to Scripture, but you twist it to fit your understanding as the world does, and you make it contradict itself. The Son of God within me is infallible, and what he tells me in secret, I will shout to the world as he commanded me to.

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