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Luck has nothing to do with being a Christian or learning from God.

But I do understand your meaning - Thank you.

May God blessyou in your pursuits to please Him,

Eric %^)

eric@whitestonepublishing.org

FYI - I have no outbound e-mail right now,
but I may be able to send mesages
through the ezboard MyInbox if you have it enabled.

Actually, I was just supplying an alternative for those who wish to contact me if/when I get banned from this wicked Forum.

RE:>? * whitestone, give it a rest. *

It's whitestonepublishing, not whitestone.


RE:>> * If this forum is "wicked", then separate yourself from it, for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

This is a discussion forum for KJV-onlyism. Discuss kjv-onlyism. Is that so hard? *

I thought I was discussing it.
Didn't I discuss that it was wicked ?
That seemed easy.

I'm sorry if you don't agree, but that is my side of the discussion. I don't plan to tell you what you want to hear just becasue you want to hear it.

I calling it wicked is not considered discussing it, I apologize.


Go ye into ALL the world...

As thou hast sent me into the world,
even so have I also sent them into the world.

I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world,
but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolators; for then must ye needs go out of the world.


Even so, as you wish, I will post here no longer.

A brother in the Lord and for the Lord Jesus unto the end.
Eric %^)

RE:>> * No, you didn't discuss it. *

I respectfully disagree. Have you read all my posts ?
Like this one : pub1.ezboard.com/fbibleve...c&index=42
Discuss, Yes.
Debate, No.
Argue, No.

Did I discuss it in full depth? No.
We are not to give strong meat to those in need of milk.
Such is like casting pearls before swine.
Please do not read a personal implication from me into these words as
this is the symbolism used by God. I am just identifying an application
of the His Word that we are all to make.

One-on-one relationships between those who are faithful
cannot really be fully carried out on a Forum alone.



RE:>> * You came here, called the forum wicked *

Agreed. And it is. Did you read the definition I supplied for wicked ?
Would you say none of those things occur in this Forum ?



RE:>> * am I wrong in assuming that this means the participants are also wicked? *
Yes and no ?
Does wrong mean mistaken ?
Does wicked mean evil ? If it does, Jesus gave your answer. (Matthew 7:11)
This applies to myself as well. Yes, I am wicked.
Do you find it difficult to admit that about yourself ?

When you come to a fuller realization of this,
you will likely move closer to a deeper understanding of His love for us.

Though I have been regenerated for over 30 years,
there is a never ending depth of His love to search and find.
In this, I pray you know His promise is true - seek and ye shall find.


RE:>> * and gave no reasons why. *

You have not read or understood all my posts, have you ?
Did I tell you about the Holy Spirit who gives me life and strength and the mind of Christ ?



RE:>> * When you witness, do you walk up to someone on the street,
without knowing a thing about them - and call them a wicked sinner bound for hell? *

Brother Mark does this far more than myself, Thanks Mark G (Church in the Wind Harley riders),
,but, yes, I myself do sometimes. What is your offence to that ?
Is that not part of the gospel ? Am I NOT to preach that ?
Have you ever witnessed to Harley riders that hang out in groups(gangs)?



RE:>> * Do you then follow that by saying that they should pray and the Holy Spirit will show them
the truth and then walk away without giving a single detail about how Jesus came to save us? *

Sometimes, sometimes not. I try to allow the Spirit help me discern those decisions
Have you ever stuck around too long after telling a Harley rider that he is a wicked sinner bound for hell ?
I could tell you about some wrong decisions, but do you know what John 4:36-38 is conveying ? *
Yes, sometimes I plant and I water. Sometimes, I just plant. Am I wrong in this ?
FYI - Brother Mark and I disagree on many doctrinal positions, but we have the same love one to another.
When each Harley rider sees our witness together, he/she (Yes, there are "she" Harley riders.) sees
us embrace(A form of a holy kiss.), our message may not be believed but one thing is believed -
We are His disciples.



RE:>> * Essentially, that is what you have done here. *

I guess I should say, Thank you ?



RE:>> * If you are right, and I am wrong, don't you think you should tell me what I need to hear? *

The whole of what you need to hear ? Absolutely not.
I dont even know what you need to hear.
But I think I have shared Whom it is you should hear, am I right ?
Do you believe I am to be a one-stop, fix all thats wrong, SuperBeliever, sinner fixer-upper ?
Am I the hand and the foot and the eye ?
If I were not just one member, where were the need of the body?
Am I not to have need for you and others to help ?
Do I not have John 4:36-38 as a promise from my God to help my infirmities.



RE:>> * If you think discussing issues that are potentially divisive is sin *

No, I do not think this, nor did I say this, but thanks for asking what I think.
Sorry, that was not super-polite.



RE:>> * It is not wrong to calmly discuss these things at least to the point at which we each understand each other, even if we don't agree. *
My dear sister, I do mostly agree with you on the surface,
except I would add words to qualify "wrong" as "not always wrong" and
because we are instructed not to deceive our selves, I would also add
this very real caution Discussing issues that are potentially
divisive can easily provide the means of temptation for many to sin.
We are not to place a stumnlingblock in the way.
Do you agree or disagree with these proposed changes to
your "It is not wrong" statement ?



RE:>> * mere calm discussion of it[potentially divisive issues] is not[sin]. *

We seem to be in complete agreement here.



RE:>> * You seem eager to leave. *

If that means eager to find a more productive (eternal fruit wise) place to go, then, yes, I agree.
If that means that I find very little sincere display of the fruit of the Spirit, then maybe I really am eager to leave. Anything wrong with being eager to leave ? My most eager desire is to be gone from this earth.
Is that wrong ?



RE:>> * No one has banned you or even asked you to leave. *

I respectfully disagree.
More than one person has indicated the option of my leaving or being gone or going away,
which I consider as asking me to leave.
Regardless, I were given just these two options by a moderator
1) grow up
2) go away
and I am unable to grow up because I am already grown up, that only leaves go away.
Even if you do not consider such a circumstance to equate to a ban, I do.
Wait, I have grown a little more now (in the Lord), so Ill leave this one more post.
Good thing too, since you dont have EZ-Board messages enabled and
this is may only means of contact with you.
Well, I may be done growing for a while now ( only the Lord knows ), so I go away 'til then,
but may the God of all wisdom seek to find the love that He placed in each heart that
has come to know Jesus as Saviour that they may also learn of His Lordship as a reality.



RE:>> * Do you know how many people have come here, since I joined, with your same style? *

My "same" style ? Yes.
One. My manufacturer tells me this in His Book(KJV).
Remember, KJVO are individual people, not a group.
Are we to judge a person's actions? Yes.
Are we to judge a person's actions by the actions of others ?
If we did, would we be in err ?
If we judge a persons actions based on what we perceive their
type or their style to be, do we not then show partiality ?
Yea, we would greatly err. (James 2)



RE:>> * Here's the style KJVO[Eric] enters with super-polite manners. He[Eric] gives hints that those who use modern versions are wrong and should not do so, but [Eric]refuses to back up these hints with any information whatsoever. He[Eric] advises those people to pray and be guided by the Holy Spirit who will obviously show them that the KJV is the only word of God. He[Eric] might even offer a few public prayers on this forum. He[Eric] asks one or two to give reasons why they believe more than one translation can be the word of God, and the reasons must be scriptural. As soon as he[Eric] is asked to do the same - to give reasons why he believes the KJV to be the only word of God, and those reasons must be scriptural he[Eric] suddenly hears God call him to leave this wicked forum and go out and win souls. *

Lets compare honestly shall we ?
Do you believe I entered with super-polite manners ? If so, how is this wrong ?
Did I hint the those who use modern versions should not do so ? BTW- I would be hinting against myself.
Is offering prayer wrong ?
Did I say the Holy Spirit would obviously show or did I hint that the Holy Spirit will not reveal the same things to everyone in the same time frame, if at all ?
Is there anything wrong with hints ? Can advice be considered as hints or vice-versa ?
Scriptural reasons ? Is the leading of the Holy Spirit a scriptural reason ?
Hear God call ? Not if this is how I think you mean hear a call, based on your other posts.
Has God called everyone to win souls ?
( Please do not play modern version text critic games with this answer. )
Yes, God has called us to share the love that abounded toward all through the shedding of blood.
Having ears, do we hear not ? That is the question.



RE:>> * Is it any wonder that some people here then believe that KJVO is self- or pseudo-righteous? *

I could turn that around, right ?
Based upon the posts at this Forum, would it be any wonder that some people would
believe that many people that are non-KJV are self- or pseudo-righteous?
We should always turn a question or statement around to ourselves first, right ?
Im NOT saying that I ALWAYS do this I do err often. Remember, sin is in my flesh.
If you could please identify where there is factual evidence that I have lied to you,
please allow me an opportunity to repent and ask forgiveness.



RE:>> * In my time here, I have seen a lot of the Ruckman type come through with their accusations, name-calling and condemnations. *

Yes, I see them.
While I give advice that you CAN believe all that the Holy Ghost says,
I have given my advice not to believe all that Peter S. Ruckman and James R. White say.
I pray for Peter and James, and others. What else can we do ?



RE:>> * I have seen a slightly smaller number to come through with your style - vague hints, calls for us to give scriptural reasons but the refusal to do the same themselves and then exit. *

Oops. Forget the above reply to style, I thought you were talking to me.
I see my style was not identified as the above, but this one instead.

Just hints ?
Just hints so far ? Does that mean I am slow to speak ?
Are we to be swift to speak and slow to hear ? (James 1:19)
Fruit of the Spirit includes patience(long suffering).
I think this is one of the hardest things for most, including me.


Vague hints ?
Is asking a question or putting forth a rhetorical question considered a vague hint ?
Anything specifically wrong with vague hints or is it just not YOUR own preference ?
Do you know how many questions the Holy Spirit authored in the pure words of God ?
Yes, pure words. Is a well known dark colored horse the same as Black Beauty ?

Refusal ?
Refusal to give scriptural reason ? No, I did not refuse.
Scriptural reason ? Is the reason "following the leading of the Holy Spirit" considered scriptural ?
If not, please explain further for me.

I think you mischaracterize my style, thus, giving a false impression.
Do you belie brothers or sisters often ?
I labour in the word and doctrine. Is this how you will honour me for that ?



I truly do love you GreenBranch, regardless of what you may now believe,
but I will still speak truth to you even if it hurts sometimes.
It is not real love if I will not speak truth to you.
I wont always speak it(the truth) as gently as I should this is a fault of mine.
I do not agree with all of your doctrine, but I do love you.

FYI - I do not agree with ALL of the doctrine held by others who believe that
the KJV is THE Word of God in English, but I believe they have found the "good part".

I pray every child of God will come to sit at the feet of Jesus.
One day, I know they all will, but so many (eternal)blessings
are missed when we mimic Martha instead of Mary.
May we redeem the time because the days are evil.

My prayers go out for all who moderate, and post, and read here.
I pray for you specifically, my sister, whom I do love. Please pray for me.

Please know that I do not desire yours, but you.
Does you husband know you are corresponding with me yet ?
You have my love and you may freely have
Grace and peace from our Lord Jesus Christ, Creator of all things.

What great things He has promised us - when we humble our selves and pray.

I pray each us seek faithful men where we are though. Such that may be
willing to do far more than give mere hints. Thanks Joe B.

To God be all the glory. What great things He hath done.
Thank you Lord for Thy Spirit. May we praise Thee all the day long.
Amen.

May the Lord of hosts grant you strength to overcome all fear.
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear;
but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
Goodbye, my sister. I will meet you There.

May God richly bless all His children in the grace and knowledge of Him and
in wisdom and spiritual understanding.