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Westcot and Hort
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 loadedman |
Westcot and Hort |
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Posts: 7 (07/01/2002 16:56:29) |
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loadedman |
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Posts: 7 (07/01/2002 17:00:07) |
wow that was bad spelling!
it should read anyone here ever heard of them? |
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loadedman |
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Posts: 7 (07/01/2002 17:11:23) |
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loadedman |
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Posts: 7 (07/01/2002 17:20:23) |
listen to this if you can, i dont know, it might be too tough for you all to handle!
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steelmaker |
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Posts: 2099 (07/02/2002 13:33:18) Registered User |
Not too tuff, just boring-the same old Onlyist rhetoric, with its usual lack of proof.
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loadedman |
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Posts: 7 (07/02/2002 15:13:38) |
lack of proof??????? Did you hear the message? All of it? He found his info in an encyclopedia. Therefore it is just common knowledge. I think the problem here is a lack light reception. If that isnt proof, i dont know what is. Warlocks my friend, Warlocks (the male version of those things that fly around on brooms and cast spells on people with black cats, This forum wont let me use the words I wanted to.) wrote the text for your "bibles". And, yes, they did incorperate their doctrine. Anyone else out there willing to listen to this message, if you let it, it could be a real eyeopener!
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Kristi |
ALERT: 'Loadedman' POSSIBLE TROLL | ||
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Posts: 3769 (07/02/2002 16:56:20) Registered User |
I really regret that our other admin has yanked this thread out of "The Vault" forum, which is where I moved it last evening. One of the other admins would probably agree with this observation:
The first IP# of yours shows up as 64.12.103.169 America Online, Inc. (NETBLK-AOL-MTC) 10600 Infantry Ridge Road Manassas, VA 20109 US The latest one is 152.163.204.63 America Online (NET-ANS-BNET8) 12100 Sunrise Valley Drive Reston, VA 20191 US These very same number ranges have shown up in posts by many of our previous trollers we've had here. Yes, I know that they're AOL #s and there are only 600,000 billion AOL people on the planet, but it's so interesting that these particular AOL #s are among the ones that also happen to belong to the few trolls we've had.
Many trolls are smart enough not to use their real accounts .They may make up a fake account, or they usually get a free one from hotmail. They may make up a new identity on an ISP which allows for multiples, like AOL. This doesn't mean that all people on those accounts are trolls!!! People may have many good reasons for using a fake name, a free acount or a multiple AOL id! But if a suspicious post comes from such an account, be careful. Also be aware that the troll may be using somebody else's account."
If you go to google.com and type in the phrase "versions-discussion-board wescott," you'll find this: Posts about W and H at BVDB
They sometimes post as "newbies," pretending to be new to the debate and unaware of the issues involved; making obviously inflammatory statements which they know will cause backlash; intentionally making untrue and inaccurate statements knowing that you and others cannot resist correcting an error |
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loadedman |
Re: ALERT: 'Loadedman' IS NOT A TROLL | ||
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Posts: 7 (07/02/2002 19:05:50) |
Joke? Mam this is not even a joking matter! Yes i meant exactly what I said. Listen to the WHOLE sermon i posted. It is all right there! Westcot and Hort are the 2 "daddys" of the new age movement. Ask any new ager, they will say it is so. I am not a troll either. I signed up just so i could have some fun on this forum. I happen to be an Independent, fundamental, King James Bible believing, Hell-fire and brimstone, teenage baptist. I am prob. going to be heading off to Hyles-Anderson College to learn how to preach in just 2 years. And I cant wait to help build a teen department that Loves the King James and Jesus. Oh, actually those are the same thing. That of course is due to the verse in 1 John 5:7
Thank you! Please listen to the sermon, and if you want more, I can get you more reasons. |
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Kristi |
ALERT: 'Loadedman' IS A TROLL | ||
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Posts: 3769 (07/02/2002 19:10:54) Registered User |
Okay, Scott McClare may need more evidence that you're a troll, but not me; this last post of yours sealed the deal. Buh-bye.
Post Script. Please note that I've allowed his post containing the link to whatever sermon he was talking about to stand. |
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amarillo |
no new age daddies | ||
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Posts: 3730 (07/03/2002 06:34:32) Administrator |
perhaps u're new here, but accusations against W-H have been demonstrated to be false, w congenital liars repeating the one started by an SDA seminarian in the 1800s.
of course, we know who the BIG daddy of lies is. so, pls don't just swallow all u've been fed concerning W-H. The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going. (Prov 14:15) Joseph Ng"For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven."Ps 119:89 KJB
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steelmaker |
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Posts: 2099 (07/03/2002 07:19:00) Registered User |
1. No, W&H didn't write the text for any modern Bibles-it was written many centuries ago.
2. King James,under whose auspices the AV 1611 was produced, was no paragon of righteousness according to many of those same encyclopedias. And neither were many of the AV translators. Can GOD not use ANYONE to accomplish his will? And for every encyclopedia article condemning W&H,there are two such articles hailing them as scholars & Godly men. Choose your article to fit your agenda. |
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Kristi |
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Posts: 3769 (07/03/2002 07:55:50) Registered User |
...he should get his allegations correct. King James Onlyists usually charge W and H with being closet Roman Catholics or occultists, not New Agers -- unless Gail Riplinger tossed that accusation at them as well as the other stuff.
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CCCCP |
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Posts: 96 (07/03/2002 12:42:30) |
Hyles-Anderson???
WOS was a lover of him. |
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BrianT |
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Posts: 2094 (07/03/2002 13:04:32) ezOP |
It is posts like this that assure me that brainwashing is alive and well in extreme KJVO circles.
 I think W&H's "new age"/"occultic" reputation is due to Ms. Riplinger's unfortunate and unfounded slander, which has been taken as gospel truth by those who simply wish it to be true. Riplinger found an occultist in the same time period as B.F. Westcott, named W.W.Westcott. In her book, she then ties B.F. to W.W. just because they have the same last name! What kind of ridiculous, slanderous, air-headed research is that??? And it is even *intentional*! A footnote buried way in the back says any connection between the two men is "speculation", but most don't read those footnotes and the damage is done. Loadedman, don't swallow the lies. Look into it for yourself. Read what W&H have to say *for themselves* - not what some self-appointed secretary of God (or someone else who got their information from her) tries to deceive you with. > the King James and Jesus. Oh, actually those are the same thing So Jesus has already come again? Cool. I must have missed the rapture, but oh well. |
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Kristi |
'LOADED MAN' NO LONGER BANNED | ||
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Posts: 3769 (07/04/2002 11:19:06) Registered User |
"Loaded man" is no longer banned.
I do not believe that the ban should have been lifted (another BVDB admin doesn't agree with me here), but nonetheless, "Loadedman" is allowed to post here again if he chooses, provided that he continues to follow the rules and read the newbie page (see the link at the top of this forum). Loadedman was contacted by e-mail today and informed that he can post here again. To all posters: I want to make it clear that I do not mind if people want to discuss Westcott and Hort and their involvement in the versions debate. We've always allowed people, both pro-KJO and non-KJO, to post ideas, arguments, and information about Westcott and Hort, so there was no attempt to stifle free speech. |
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filosofer |
Whether a troll or not, what's missing... | ||
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Posts: 242 (07/06/2002 16:38:11) Registered User |
in this quote?
Quote: Two items: 1. No mention of the Gospel, but a heavy emphasis on wrong-headed Law aimed at others. 2. Maturity. Learn ot preach in 2 years? I have been preaching for 20+ years and I am still learning. Oh, true, I could give somebody else "hell" - but that is neither preaching nor helpful for the kingdom. In Christ,
filo While I was with you, I decided to deal with only one subject - Jesus Christ, who was crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2 |
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Scott McClare |
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Posts: 3380 (07/08/2002 07:12:11) |
2. Maturity. Learn ot preach in 2 years?
Well, given the depth of preaching put out by HAC alumni, 2 years is an awful long time. In fact, I can give you a whole course on it in about 25 words or less! 1. Write a diatribe on your favourite hobby-horses or fundamentalist "standards." 2. Find a Bible verse to put at the beginning. Take care,
Scott Scott A. McClare, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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nicholasintexas(d) |
Re: ALERT: 'Loadedman' IS NOT A TROLL | ||
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Posts: 6 (07/08/2002 10:29:05) |
Quote: Ahhhh....a true cult leader in the making.... (1) Worship the Book and not God. (2) Train the children to follow. Nicholas pub84.ezboard.com/bnicholasforum88957 |
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jeffthefinn |
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Posts: 119 (07/08/2002 17:36:59) |
Amazing, Our Lord waited until He was 30 before He began His Ministry. What does a 20 year old know about life?
Jeff the Finn |
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