Kristi,you seem to be a special object of RexText's affections.
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If anyone cares to read the last twenty or so posts on the Yahoo"King James Bible Club",you can see for yourselves the character of many of the most virulent KJBOs.We have asserted that,rather than defend their position(which is untenable at best) they launch into attacks against anyone they suspect of not following their party line.And their behavior in that club bears this out precisely.
Kristi,you seem to be a special object of RexText's affections. |
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Hmm... well, I wasn't on line a whole lot on Satuday, just like during the morning, and then a bit at my boyfriend's house, he has "Web TV," and I posted on this forum using Web TV, just to see what it's like.
But anyway. I haven't been to the KJB Club for a day or two. So Rex was getting pretty nasty, eh? Did you read all my posts there? Did you notice how nice I was? Not a drop of sarcasm or vinegar from me, so any rudeness on their part was double-y without merit or justification. Anytime I get to thinking that Rex Text may be one of the more moderate KJOs, he gets back to the same brand of name calling and such as some of the other KJOs, so my take on him reverses now and then. |
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Yep,I read way back into their club,including all your posts. And it seems the KJBOs attacked us because of who we are,rather than what we posted at that club. That's why I started this thread-Cowie,RexText,and,yes,even Brandplucked fit the stereotype perfectly,at least on that club. And that stereotype for KJBO behavior is:
1. To condemn everyone who does not follow their "party line" of using the AV ONLY,excluding all other English BVs,as "an heretick,apostate,hypocrite,liar",ad nauseam. 2. To say that anyone who uses a Bible other than the AV is not really saved.(Read Cowie's posts here and on the Yahoo "Which Version" club.I'm not singling him out,but his posts are typical of those of other KJBOs scattered throughout the various boards.) 3.To dodge questions asking for SCRIPTURAL support of their position. 4. To launch ad-hominem attacks against those who question the veracity of their position rather than to attempt to refute those critics. 5.To declare the AV as the standard to which all other BVs must be compared,without one shred of evidence to support this view,either. 6. To declare the textus receptus to be the one inerrant group of MSS,again without any proof. 7. When faced with irrefutable evidence destroying their theory,they retreat into a self-congratulatory forum where they have the power to delete any opposition,which they do instead of answering them. If those fellows would take time to READ and COMPREHEND the Bible they claim to love so much,and spend more time in PRAYER,perhaps they would learn how wrong their behavior and their attitudes are. |
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Scott Cowie's love letter to robycop3 at the"Which Version" Club:
Re: typical KJV-only personal attack scottcowie101 (39/M/Terrace B.C.) 10/21/00 3:01 pm I'm sorry Rob if you are misunderstanding my posts. You seem to be under the impression that I think you are a Christian which is not true. I do not consider you to be a brother in the Lord, I think you are one of the false brethren and will someday recieve your reward. You seem unable to read plain English, I am knocking the papist perversions of Holy Writ that are being foisted on the lazy and apathetic Laodician Church because they are corrupt. I do not consider ANY of the other modern translations in English to be the word of God. You are twisting my words as you do the words of the Bible. I urge you to repent of your actions Rob and get ready to face Jesus. Kiss the Son Rob...the kindling is burning pretty hot and hard right now. This Is a Reply to: Msg 1153 by robycop3 Message 1154 of 1232 |
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Message 1232 of 1233 Re: typical KJV-only personal attack apologetics_97 10/24/00 3:35 pm So the Gospel according to Scott Cowie = "You must believeth on the King James Bible alone, all who do not will be dammed"? --that seems to be what you are saying, and that is another Gospel. >> I am knocking the papist perversions of Holy Writ that are being foisted on the lazy and apathetic Laodician Church because they are corrupt. I do not consider ANY of the other modern translations in English to be the word of God.<< Considering that Roman Catholics have nothing to do with modern versions, other than the Vatican storing the Vaticanus for years, and one RC who was consulted for one of the versions (the NIV, or was it the NASB, can't recall), that any modern version of a non-official Roman Catholic variety can be used to point out the false views of Roman Catholicism, eg., transubstantiation, alleged papal infalliblity, etc., how can the modern versions honestly and accurately be said to be papal works ("papist perversions")? >>I do not consider you to be a brother in the Lord, I think you are one of the false brethren and will someday recieve your reward. ...I urge you to repent of your actions Rob and get ready to face Jesus. Kiss the Son Rob...the kindling is burning pretty hot and hard right now<< Do not be surprised if Jesus brings up these sorts of statements by you as you stand before Him on judgement [Day]; you will be hanging your head in shame, Scott. Please reconsider taking this sort of stance. Salvation comes by and through Jesus Christ, not the KJV, and not believing in KJOism. This Is a Reply to: Msg 1154 by scottcowie101 |
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For Logos1611 apologetics_97 10/25/00 2:47 pm Hello, Dr. H. All I did was issue an inviation to other forums, and I explicitly stated that I did not wish to debate here, and so I gave links to other forums. I can see since I last posted here that others have insulted me yet some more, and have not shown behavior becoming a Christian, and certainly not that of a Christian gentlemen, this one comment being but one example (post 3204, by "Rex Text"): >>Being a gentleman is one thing, continually allowing the adversaries to come in and piss on our carpet is too much. Every time we clean the carpet, another one comes in and does it again."<< The criteria for your forum states: "This is a place for all who love the Authorized (King James) Version to discuss issues related to its text and translation. A place for those who believe in biblical preservation, and who appreciate God's preserved word in English." --All the above comments are true of me, whether or not some of your posters agree. ~~~ Visit Bible Versions Discussion Board: http://pub1.ezboard.com/bbibleversiondiscussionboard.html Visit KJB Onlyism Debate Club: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kjbonlyismdebateclub Visit King James Onlyists are Cultists: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kjvonlyistsarecultists This Is a Reply to: Msg 3241 by Logos1611 View Replies to this Message Message 3242 of 3242 |
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Re: Roby cop read your Bible: Which One? apologetics_97 10/25/00 3:00 pm [Rex Text said to Robycop3]: >>Well, if you got saved by the sewage system,<< Salvation is by the grace of God through faith in Jesus, not by whatever Bible version a person uses: and there is only one Gospel, so for you to refer to his salvation experience as being like sewage is for you to insult God Himself. But regarding the subject heading of your post, "Roby cop read your Bible," which one, the KJV 1611 with the Apocrypha or the 1769 KJV minus the apocrypha... or....
The only way to determine the precise words of the King James translators is to recover the manuscript they gave to the printers in 1611. THIS and THIS ALONE is the only untainted KJV that has ever existed. If KJOnlys can demand such absolute proof for the words of our Greek text, WE can demand the same absolute proof for their infallible AV 1611. Visit Bible Versions Discussion Board: http://pub1.ezboard.com/bbibleversiondiscussionboard.html Visit KJB Onlyism Debate Club: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kjbonlyismdebateclub Visit King James Onlyists are Cultists: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kjvonlyistsarecultists The King James Onlyist Hall of Fame Forum: post your favorite wacky, stoopid, or off the wall King James Onlyist arguments, comments, and observations here: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kjvonlyistshalloffame This Is a Reply to: Msg 3235 by RexText |
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Scott Cowie wrote: << I'm sorry Rob if you are misunderstanding my posts. You seem to be under the impression that I think you are a Christian which is not true. I do not consider you to be a brother in the Lord, I think you are one of the false brethren and will someday recieve your reward. You seem unable to read plain English, I am knocking the papist perversions of Holy Writ that are being foisted on the lazy and apathetic Laodician Church because they are corrupt. I do not consider ANY of the other modern translations in English to be the word of God. You are twisting my words as you do the words of the Bible. I urge you to repent of your actions Rob and get ready to face Jesus. Kiss the Son Rob...the kindling is burning pretty hot and hard right now. >> In light of this, I think we were easier on Scott Cowie than he deserved. But then, that's called mercy, isn't it. Mercy is good. |
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In light of this, I think we were easier on Scott Cowie than he deserved. But then, that's called mercy, isn't it. Mercy is good. Well, on general principle I don't want to hold someone accountable on this forum for their deportment on other fora. Over here you start with a clean slate; although I would watch someone who was a troublemaker elsewhere more closely than someone with no prior reputation, I'm not going to go down the path of "pre-banning" people. But Cowie has already demonstrated once that he cannot control his tongue; it got him banned. I personally suspect that his leaving here has more to do with being unable to display his true colours, than "fellowship" with us "apostates." Could be wrong, though. Take care,
Scott Scott A. McClare, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Why Was This Post Deleted? apologetics_97 10/26/00 5:58 pm The following is a copy of a post I did here a day or so ago; next day, it was gone without a word. I have in this copy 'censored' a somewhat dirty word that was used by another poster here, so as not to give anyone here an excuse to delete this post: --- Message 3242 of 3242 For Logos1611 apologetics_97 10/25/00 2:47 pm Hello, Dr. H. All I did was issue an inviation to other forums, and I explicitly stated that I did not wish to debate here, and so I gave links to other forums. I can see since I last posted here that others have insulted me yet some more, and have not shown behavior becoming a Christian, and certainly not that of a Christian gentlemen, this one comment being but one example (post 3204, by "Rex Text"): >>Being a gentleman is one thing, continually allowing the adversaries to come in and p*ss on our carpet is too much. Every time we clean the carpet, another one comes in and does it again."<< The criteria for your forum states: "This is a place for all who love the Authorized (King James) Version to discuss issues related to its text and translation. A place for those who believe in biblical preservation, and who appreciate God's preserved word in English." --All the above comments are true of me, whether or not some of your posters agree. ~~~ Visit Bible Versions Discussion Board: http://pub1.ezboard.com/bbibleversiondiscussionboard.html Visit KJB Onlyism Debate Club: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kjbonlyismdebateclub Visit King James Onlyists are Cultists: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kjvonlyistsarecultists This Is a Reply to: Msg 3241 by Logos1611 View Replies to this Message Message 3242 of 3242 _______________ Message 3266 of 3266 |
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If you happened to see his post to me on the king james bible club on yahoo(before Logos deleted it).....
For the record,he told me,"Do us a favour and P%%% OFF!" He believes that just because that word is in the AV,written when it WAS everyday usage(as was gleets,shew,an help meet,etc.)that he can use it freely today,despite society's judging it to be scatology since the 18th century. Or,Scott McClare,is this just in the US and not in Canada?My apologies if that word is still everyday usage in Canada. |
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Scott, you said, <<Well, on general principle I don't want to hold someone accountable on this forum for their deportment on other fora. >> I was not speaking from a bulletin board perspective; just as a general Christian perspective. In my opinion, someone who goes around calling people non-Christians for no other reason than that they don't think the KJV is the only Bible, deserves to be held accountable, anywhere. I have been using Scott Cowie as an example of a virulent KJVOista. I quoted him on a couple other boards that I post at. He is now rejoicing that he is being persecuted. But, he is not being "persecuted for the name of Christ," but suffering as a wrongdoer, as Peter says. |
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Steelmaker asked:
Or,Scott McClare,is this just in the US and not in Canada?My apologies if that word is still everyday usage in Canada. No, in Canada it is considered a vulgarity as well, albeit not as vulgar as certain other four-letter words of Anglo-Saxon origin. I believe this is the case in the United States as well. Take care,
Scott Scott A. McClare, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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This may be perhaps one of those sterling examples, by "Imaji," a.k.a. Jason Mills:
_________________________________________ Message 1946 of 1994 Re: Kristi, a question or two... imaji (32/M/Milwaukee, WI) 12/6/00 4:22 pm [apologetics_said]: >>Interesting that the whole gender thing is the only issue anyone can even try to make me out as being a liar over [Imaji said]: Nope, sorry, not the "only". MORE are forthcoming. Now, with your admission that you have lied ONCE, about your gender, now add #2 and admit that you LIED yesterday when you said "I've never lied". [apologetics_said]: >>I could pull a KJO tactic and deny that I ever said that ""Nope, nothing to hide. I am a man" I could sit here and deny that one up the wazoo, but I haven't. If I was a liar, then I'd say, "no, I never said that, wasn't me." No, you admit it because you know that I am going to post the EVIDENCE. Even now, you use a phrase like "If I was a liar...", an attempt to disassociate yourself FROM your LIE. YOU ARE A LIAR, there is no "if" about it. [apologetics_said]: >>I don't think you'll find many people who think that a woman saying she's a man on a board run by sexist men is even in the same league as praying to God to ask him to "destroy" (Kill) other people 1. Your accusation of "sexism" is unfounded and uncalled for, but par for the course for you. 2. I quoted Scripture where David prayed for the destruction of those who oppose God. I never said I wanted you dead. I *do* however, believe that your death would benefit you AND the body of Christ, as Paul said in Corinthians, where he said we should turn such an one over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the soul might be saved. Sorry if speaking the plain truth is offensive to you. Be mad at David, Paul, and GOD, not me. ___________________ This Is a Reply to: Msg 1930 by apologetics_97 Message 1946 of 1994 Message 1954 of 1994 Imaji Should Be Banned apologetics_97 12/6/00 4:55 pm To Mods of this board, Re: Imaji Should Be Banned. Here's the comment that is just totally out of bounds: ======================================== I never said I wanted you dead. I *do* however, believe that your death would benefit you AND the body of Christ, as Paul said in Corinthians, where he said we should turn such an one over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the soul might be saved. Sorry if speaking the plain truth is offensive to you. Be mad at David, Paul, and GOD, not me. " ======================================= Yes, Imaji, the plain implication of your original post on this matter on the KJV Vs. Mod. Vers. Club was that you wanted God to DESTROY MVUs, and you went on about children being fatherless, women being widows, etc.-- you know very well that you were saying you want people DEAD, and you're doing the same thing here. And, FYI, all that business about turning a believer over to Satan for a period of time is not even talking about death or the afterlife; even when using the Scriptures to abuse someone, you still can't get it right! [Note: after he objected to this, I later clarified the passage for Imaji by explaining that "the flesh" in the New Testament is sometimes referring to the sin nature, not the person's physical body, and that the 'turning the man over to Satan' direction was given because a man in a church had sexual relations with his mother. As I pointed out, I am not a man, nor have I had sex with my mother, so I'm not so sure that this passage would apply to me] >>Nope, sorry, not the "only". MORE are forthcoming. << If it's anything as stupid as me saying that I'm a man, don't bother. But if you want to, go ahead. If they are things I've actually said, I'll say, "yeah, I said that. And, so? What does that prove? It doesn't prove that I'm an across-the-board dishonest person, and it doesn't show that KJOism is true." I'm still a Christian, Imaji. An imperfect Christian who loves Jesus and uses modern versions, and sometimes the KJV (I was brought up on a KJV). I've noticed that the other participants here have stayed out of your personal vendatta against me-- I'm all for moving on. But the next time you refer to someone else as being "sick," or "hateful," I am more than glad to remind you of your thoroughly anti-Christian behavior, like wishing death on people. >>Now, with your admission that you have lied ONCE, about your gender, now add #2 and admit that you LIED yesterday when you said "I've never lied". << Uh, dude, when I said yesterday that "I've never lied," I didn't even remember the deal where I did a post saying that 'yep I'm a man,' until you posted it here, and I saw it today. Yes sir, you're trying really hard.... Imaji, all this is pointless. Are you trying to make me out to be a sinner? Well you're preaching to the choir-- no Christian is perfect! and 2.) making me out to be a horrible person doesn't show that the KJV is God's Only Word, and 3.) as stated previously, I don't smoke, drink, have sex, or abuse drugs, so you're really having to grasp at straws to make me look like some totally decadent person. You have a hardened heart. You are bent on running down other people; I doubt now that you are even genuinely interested in the KJV or in talking about it and defending it. So Imaji, do you lie? Have you ever lied? Are you a sinner? Have you ever sinned? Of course you [have], my dear, so get off your high horse. >>I *do* however, believe that your death would benefit you AND the body of Christ, << That is a very warped and twisted thing to say and believe. And you try to make people think that I'm an Adolph Hitler-- he wanted an Aryan race, blue eyed-blondes-- but you asked God to kill MVU's. You want a race of KJO Christians. You are truly sick; I call for the moderators here to ban you, or at least tell you you're out of line. This Is a Reply to: Msg 1946 by imaji View Replies to this Message Message 1954 of |
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