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 BrianT |
Website launch: The Westcott & Hort Resource Centre |
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Posts: 2002 (11/24/2003 16:42:53) ezOP |
I've started compiling my mountain of Westcott and Hort information, and have started development on my new website, "The Westcott & Hort Resource Centre" at www.westcotthort.com
Not a lot of content online yet, but I'm plugging away at it. Feedback appreciated.  Brian |
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Scott McClare |
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Posts: 3286 (11/25/2003 00:08:33) |
Great site (so far)! This is a resource that is long overdue.
Brian: I noticed that Westcott's A General View of the History of the English Bible doesn't appear in your "bookshelf." If you can locate it, it might be a worthy addition. I also noticed that when you hover the mouse pointer over a link in the Areas column, the destination URL doesn't appear in the status bar of my browser (unlike, say, your email address in the mailto: link in the body text). It is generally considered bad style to tamper with this, even though browsers give you this functionality, since users like knowing where a link will take them. Can you tell us what will be going in the "Frequently Assaulted Quotations" section? The title intrigued me. Kristi: Remember a few years back, we started working on a KJV-only FAQ of some kind, that never went anywhere? Did we manage to get any W+H-related material done that might be of use to Brian? Take care,
Scott Gutless and Spineless Person #3 Whiny Crybaby Moderator, Bible Versions Discussion Board -- Scott A. McClare, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada mcclare@ncf.ca * ICQ #24034503 * AIM RansomOttawa  Stepping Right Up to the KJV-only Sideshow since 2001 |
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Kristi |
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Posts: 3769 (11/25/2003 01:33:44) Registered User |
Kristi: Remember a few years back, we started working on a KJV-only FAQ of some kind, that never went anywhere? Did we manage to get any W+H-related material done that might be of use to Brian?
The sad thing is, I'm not sure if I have that site bookmarked, and I don't have the URL for it memorized, LOL (if you know it, you can e-mail it to me, either at gromit58NOSPAM@hotmail.com or my EZ Board "in box," since my virtual mail accounts haven't been working consistently lately). I can try to look it up anyway, and if I find any W and H stuff, of course I'd be delighted to hand it over to Brian. And I suppose we really should finish the KJVO Faqs site some day... 
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BrianT |
Re: Website launch: The Westcott & Hort Resource Centre | ||
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Posts: 2002 (11/25/2003 09:49:52) ezOP |
Thanks for the feedback!!! Quote: I added the title to the page, I'll try and track it down. I found a few places already, in the $30-$50 range (for a recent reprint). If I can't find an "original", I'll pick up a reprint, but I prefer the non-reprints because I never know what a reprint publisher has done in terms of layout, etc. I have about 20 books in my collection right now, and only 2 or 3 are reprints. However, collecting the originals has pros and cons - the biggest con being that scanning the pages is much more difficult, because the bindings are usually very brittle. I don't want to scan very much like this, I'm trying to figure out how to use a digital camera instead, and manually feed the .jpgs into my OCR software package. The bookshelf will be the biggest, meatiest part of the site. But as you can imagine, it will also take a ton of time and effort to fill it up. Quote: Ya, I noticed that too. I didn't intentionally disable it, it must have something to do with the javascript I added to the links to make the little yellow blinky light come on beside the link. That's turning out to be more trouble that it's worth, I'll probably yank it. Quote: I'm planning on making it sort of like a regular FAQ, but also a response to all the various out-of-context quotes from Waite, Riplinger, etc, etc, etc. Sort of like:"Is it true Westcott denied the virgin birth of Christ? D.A. Waite quote him as saying '.......'" and then a response showing both how Waites quote was out of context, as well as additional quotes that Waite obviously ignored. The answers will also include links into the bookshelf so people can see for themselves, complete with full context and search capabilities. Basically, the FAQ page is intended to be a misrepresentation-debunking area. Quote: Anything you can find would be appreciated. Brian |
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Kristi |
Java script / roll overs etc | ||
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Posts: 3769 (11/25/2003 21:36:09) Registered User |
eek! EZ Boards clearly does not like this post of mine. I can't even delete the other one, as the "delete" link isn't showing up (never mind, problem resolved). So I've gone into this one to remove the code so that EZ Board will stop spazzing out.
Ya, I noticed that too. I didn't intentionally disable it, it must have something to do with the javascript I added to the links to make the little yellow blinky light come on beside the link. That's turning out to be more trouble that it's worth, I'll probably yank it. As I was saying in the Michael Jackson thread in another forum (and if you didn't read that thread, I couldn't blame you), something good came out of the scandal: the fact that I learned that roll-over type effects can be made with CSS rather than java script. I know web developers have probably known this for a long time so that I would be subjected to ridicule for not finding out until now, but whatever. Anyhoo, I don't think CSS can do an image (i.e., jpg or gif) swap out, so you may not be able to do a yellow dot, but you can still have a roll-over type effect.... If you want to see what I mean, go to the bottom of the Michael Jackson official site (and no, not I'm not kidding) , and run your mouse over the content that says stuff like"November 25, 2003 Michael Jackson Wins Court Order on Illegal Videotape" --when you run your mouse over it, the "tr" dealie changes color from white to a light grey. The dude who made that page put the code in the tr part, but when making mine own page, it also worked in "td" sections as well. If you go to page source, just look for the on Mouse out and on Mouse over comments in the "tr" tags. You may have already known this, but if not, you should be like me; the only time I've been happier over something like this is when I found out that I could block pop-up ads in Netscape. |
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BrianT |
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Posts: 2002 (11/26/2003 07:40:15) ezOP |
Coolness, thanks. I'm such an amateur when it comes to web development. I think I should look more at CSS - if I have lots of pages with the same basic format, are CSS the way to go to keep maintenance issues down?
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Scott McClare |
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Posts: 3286 (11/26/2003 09:12:06) |
I think I should look more at CSS - if I have lots of pages with the same basic format, are CSS the way to go to keep maintenance issues down?
Yes! CSS is intended to separate the visuals from the content. If you plan out your HTML carefully, you can rely exclusively on CSS to determine the site's look and feel. In fact, you can change the look and feel of an entire Web site by changing a single file. The CSS Zen Garden is the best site I have seen for showcasing this ability; at present they have nearly 150 different designs posted for the same basic HTML file (which contributors are not allowed to alter). On a more practical level, my own Web site uses XHTML for all content and CSS for all formatting. The only exceptions are any inline graphics (part of the content) and the icons along the left-hand side. Had I wanted to, I could have done the latter in CSS as well, in at least two distinct ways. Take care,
Scott Gutless and Spineless Person #3 Whiny Crybaby Moderator, Bible Versions Discussion Board -- Scott A. McClare, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada mcclare@ncf.ca * ICQ #24034503 * AIM RansomOttawa Stepping Right Up to the KJV-only Sideshow since 2001 |
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BrianT |
CSS and update on scanning | ||
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Posts: 2002 (11/26/2003 13:18:46) ezOP |
Hey Scott, thanks for that!!! That CCSZenGarden is very very cool, and will help me figure out how to implement CSS for my own site.
Scanning books is going a little faster than I expected. In about 4 hours yesterday, I was able to scan/OCR/proofread about 80 pages from one of the books. I'm just copy/pasting into my template HTML files now, I hope to have 6 chapters from "The Historic Faith" (plus table of contents, etc.) online this evening or tomorrow at the latest. |
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Kristi |
Re: Java script / roll overs / CSS | ||
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Posts: 3769 (11/26/2003 19:05:08) Registered User |
I think I should look more at CSS - if I have lots of pages with the same basic format, are CSS the way to go to keep maintenance issues down?
Well, Scott gave you lots of info, but I thought I'd still chime in too.  Yes, it cuts down on maintenance quite a bit. It's my understanding that's one of its bigging selling points with professional web developers. I forget the exact terminology, but you can either apply a style sheet to just one page (which I think is called a "local" style?), or you can create a separate page (called an external style sheet) and 'link' to it from all the other pages. Any changes you make to the separate .css page affects all the pages at your site that are 'linked' to it. --when I say linked to it, you place code in the headers of the pages that point to the CSS page, so it's kind of like having a .js page (an example of that code can be viewed here, under the "external style sheet" heading). Apparently, these days it's considered to be professional to use CSS, while using plain old HTML is considered a tad unprofessional and 'behind the times.' And BTW, I"m always going to be an aspiring web developer. I dabble in it, trying to learn as much as I can, but I'm definitely not an expert. I'm a novice who likes to tinker in this stuff. I need to eventually study up on CSS myself, and DHTML. My understanding of DHTML, though, is that it's just a combination of CSS and regular HTML (and maybe java script?) -- basically, it's a catch term for using interactivity in your pages. Lately, I've been studying java script so that it will help me understand Flash's action scripting. I finally found a book that explains java script in a way that I can understand, until I got into the chapter on loops, the "do while" loops etc. I will definitely be checking out Scott's link to the CSS Zen Garden, especially if they have ready-made templates -- but I'd still like to learn how to do it firsthand rahter than *having* to rely on someone else's work. |
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Kristi |
CSS for Pull Down Menus | ||
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Posts: 3769 (11/28/2003 17:37:24) Registered User |
I got curious if CSS could be used for pull down menus, and it can. Here's one page that discusses it and has a working example: "Pure CSS Pull Down Menus," from Design Memo
There is a thing at the bottom of this page which says that CSS pull down menus do not work in some MIE brower versions. I'm just guessing that CSS can do (or will be able to do in the future) a lot of stuff that java script does. |
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