Brian:
I recieved this from a friend. I noticed some of these quotes are dealt with on your site, but some aren't? Maybe you would care to comment. Thanks:
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The Lives and Convictions of B.F. Westcott and F.J.A. Hort Prior to and Surrounding their Revision of the King James Bible
Brooke Foss Westcott (1825-1901)
a. A Synopsis. Westcott was born, raised and educated in England. In 1848 He took a degree at the Trinity College of Cambridge University. This University, incidentally, is where Charles Darwin had attended from 1827 through 1831 (EB Online Darwin, Charles 9/07/01). Westcott became a fellow (incorporated member) in 1849. Three years later he became a lecturer at Harrow (a boys school in London). In 1864 Westcott was made Regius Professor of Divinity (Regius denotes a position funded by the British monarchy) back at Cambridge, and retained this position upon becoming Anglican Bishop of Durham in 1890 (EB Online Westcott, Brooke Foss 9/05/00).
b. Personal Quotations. The very words of Westcott (below) reveal in him a confused lack of faith in literal Biblical Christianity and a gravitating towards not only Catholicism but to Communism and the occult; yet the work of this man is looked to as a source for improvement of the Bible.
(1) His Association with the Oxford Movement. I am more fully convinced than ever that Keble has found the truest and noblest end of poetry - to calm and cheer and soothe and train the mind by the simple teaching of the nature. (Grady FA 220)
(2) His Lack of Faith in the Bible (1847). I never read an account of a miracle but I seem instinctively to feel its improbability, and discover some want of evidence in the account of it. (Grady FA 216)
(3) His Preference towards Catholicism (France, 1847) behind the screen was a Pieta the size of life [ie. a Virgin and dead Christ].Had I been alone I could have knelt there for hours. (Fuller WB 278)
(4) His Lack of Faith (1848) . It seems as if I am inclined to learn nothing; I must find out all myself, and then I am satisfied, but that simple faith and obedience which so many enjoy, I fear will never be mine. (Grady FA 217)
(5) After Hort Founded the Ghostly Guild in 1851 (for the investigation and classification of ghosts and psychical phenomena). there are many others who believe it possible that the beings of the unseen world may manifest themselves to us in extraordinary ways, (Grady FA 218) . See 3. below for more on this subject.
(6) His Regard for Catholic Heresies (1865). I wish I could see to what forgotten truth Mariolatry bears witness. (Fuller WB 279) and about the same time, What marvelous power the organisation of the Roman Church gives to its leaders, and is it wrong? (Grady FA 230)
(7) Writing to Hort for Secretive Planning about the Bible Revision. I suggested to Ellicott a plan of tabulating and circulating emendations before our meeting, which may in the end prove valuable. (Grady FA 254)
(8) His Fondness for Pagan Greek Philosophers. I can never look back on my Cambridge life with sufficient thankfulness. Above all, those hours which were spent over Plato and Aristotle have wrought that in me which I pray may never be done away. (Grady FA 221)
(9) His Political Inclination. Westcott and Hort were champions of liberal agendas such as world peace and national disarmament (especially of the United States). They despised free enterprise, and Westcott stated, I suppose I am a communist by nature. (Grady FA 240)
(10) His Rejection of the Bible as Literal History (1890, to the Archbishop of Canterbury). No one now, I suppose, holds that the first three chapters of Genesis, for example, give a literal history - I could never understand how any one reading them with open eyes could think they did. (Fuller WB 280)
(11) His Admitted Ignorance of the Bible (about 1900 as a Bishop). I cannot speak of the Old Testament with adequate knowledge. (Grady FA 245)
Fenton John Anthony Hort (1828-1892)
a. Life Synopsis. Hort was born in Dublin but educated in Cambridge as his aforementioned compatriot. In 1852 he became a fellow at Cambridge (until 1857), during which time (1856) he was ordained an Anglican minister. He held this post for fifteen years. In 1872 he became a Professor back at Cambridge (EB Online Hort, Fenton J.A. 9/05/00).
b. Personal Quotations. The words of Hort reveal blatant heresy, and unquestionable hostility against not only the Bible, but against conservative Bible-believing Christianity, Protestantism and the United States of America.
(1) His Preference for Catholicsm (1848) . The pure Romish view seems to be nearer, and more likely to lead to, the truth than the Evangelical (Fuller WB 280)
(2) His Belief in Baptismal Regeneration. We maintain Baptismal Regeneration as the most important of doctrines, and later, Baptism assures us that we are children of God, members of Christ (Grady FA 229)
(3) Admitting His Ignorance of the Scripture (though about to correct it). But I am so ignorant of Hebrew and, what is worse, of the Greek text of the N.T., that I have all but discarded them. Then in 1851, Think of that vile Textus Receptus leaning entirely on late MSS.; it is a blessing there are such early ones. (Grady FA 245)
(4) Writing to Westcott (1860) Regarding Darwins Origin of Species. Have you read Darwin? How I should like to talk with you about it! In spite of difficulties, I am inclined to think it unanswerable. In any case it is a treat to read such a book. (Grady FA 231)
(5) His Statement that Vicarious Atonement is Heresy (1860). Nothing could be more unscriptural than the modern limiting of Christs bearing our sins and sufferings to his death; but indeed that is only one aspect of an almost universal heresy (Fuller FA 281)
(6) His Further Disagreement With Biblical Salvation. I do not see how Gods justice can be satisfied without every mans suffering in his own person the full penalty for his sins. (Grady FA 233)
(7) His Enmity Towards the United States (the American Civil War had began in 1861). Icannot say that I see much as yet to soften my deep hatred of democracy and it cannot be wrong to desire and pray from the bottom of ones heart that the American Union may be shivered to pieces. (Grady FA 241-2)
(8) His Writing in1864, to Westcott). He declares that Protestantism is only parenthetical and temporary. And, Perfect Catholicity has been nowhere since the Reformation. (Fuller WB 279)
(9) His Writing in1865, to Westcott. He says that I have been persuaded for many years that Mary-worship and Jesus-worship have very much in common in their causes and results. (Fuller WB 279)
(10) Regarding the Secrecy of their Project. He wrote, Also-but this may be cowardice-I have a sort of craving that our text should be cast upon the world before we deal with matters likely to brand us with suspicion. I mean, a text, issued by men already known for what will undoubtedly be treated as dangerous heresy, will have great difficulties in finding its way to regions which it might not hope otherwise to reach, (Grady FA 248) .
(11) His Rejection of the Literal Truth of the Bible. I am inclined to think that no such state as Eden (I mean the popular notion) ever existed, (Fuller WB 280)
I recieved this from a friend. I noticed some of these quotes are dealt with on your site, but some aren't? Maybe you would care to comment. Thanks:
*******
The Lives and Convictions of B.F. Westcott and F.J.A. Hort Prior to and Surrounding their Revision of the King James Bible
Brooke Foss Westcott (1825-1901)
a. A Synopsis. Westcott was born, raised and educated in England. In 1848 He took a degree at the Trinity College of Cambridge University. This University, incidentally, is where Charles Darwin had attended from 1827 through 1831 (EB Online Darwin, Charles 9/07/01). Westcott became a fellow (incorporated member) in 1849. Three years later he became a lecturer at Harrow (a boys school in London). In 1864 Westcott was made Regius Professor of Divinity (Regius denotes a position funded by the British monarchy) back at Cambridge, and retained this position upon becoming Anglican Bishop of Durham in 1890 (EB Online Westcott, Brooke Foss 9/05/00).
b. Personal Quotations. The very words of Westcott (below) reveal in him a confused lack of faith in literal Biblical Christianity and a gravitating towards not only Catholicism but to Communism and the occult; yet the work of this man is looked to as a source for improvement of the Bible.
(1) His Association with the Oxford Movement. I am more fully convinced than ever that Keble has found the truest and noblest end of poetry - to calm and cheer and soothe and train the mind by the simple teaching of the nature. (Grady FA 220)
(2) His Lack of Faith in the Bible (1847). I never read an account of a miracle but I seem instinctively to feel its improbability, and discover some want of evidence in the account of it. (Grady FA 216)
(3) His Preference towards Catholicism (France, 1847) behind the screen was a Pieta the size of life [ie. a Virgin and dead Christ].Had I been alone I could have knelt there for hours. (Fuller WB 278)
(4) His Lack of Faith (1848) . It seems as if I am inclined to learn nothing; I must find out all myself, and then I am satisfied, but that simple faith and obedience which so many enjoy, I fear will never be mine. (Grady FA 217)
(5) After Hort Founded the Ghostly Guild in 1851 (for the investigation and classification of ghosts and psychical phenomena). there are many others who believe it possible that the beings of the unseen world may manifest themselves to us in extraordinary ways, (Grady FA 218) . See 3. below for more on this subject.
(6) His Regard for Catholic Heresies (1865). I wish I could see to what forgotten truth Mariolatry bears witness. (Fuller WB 279) and about the same time, What marvelous power the organisation of the Roman Church gives to its leaders, and is it wrong? (Grady FA 230)
(7) Writing to Hort for Secretive Planning about the Bible Revision. I suggested to Ellicott a plan of tabulating and circulating emendations before our meeting, which may in the end prove valuable. (Grady FA 254)
(8) His Fondness for Pagan Greek Philosophers. I can never look back on my Cambridge life with sufficient thankfulness. Above all, those hours which were spent over Plato and Aristotle have wrought that in me which I pray may never be done away. (Grady FA 221)
(9) His Political Inclination. Westcott and Hort were champions of liberal agendas such as world peace and national disarmament (especially of the United States). They despised free enterprise, and Westcott stated, I suppose I am a communist by nature. (Grady FA 240)
(10) His Rejection of the Bible as Literal History (1890, to the Archbishop of Canterbury). No one now, I suppose, holds that the first three chapters of Genesis, for example, give a literal history - I could never understand how any one reading them with open eyes could think they did. (Fuller WB 280)
(11) His Admitted Ignorance of the Bible (about 1900 as a Bishop). I cannot speak of the Old Testament with adequate knowledge. (Grady FA 245)
Fenton John Anthony Hort (1828-1892)
a. Life Synopsis. Hort was born in Dublin but educated in Cambridge as his aforementioned compatriot. In 1852 he became a fellow at Cambridge (until 1857), during which time (1856) he was ordained an Anglican minister. He held this post for fifteen years. In 1872 he became a Professor back at Cambridge (EB Online Hort, Fenton J.A. 9/05/00).
b. Personal Quotations. The words of Hort reveal blatant heresy, and unquestionable hostility against not only the Bible, but against conservative Bible-believing Christianity, Protestantism and the United States of America.
(1) His Preference for Catholicsm (1848) . The pure Romish view seems to be nearer, and more likely to lead to, the truth than the Evangelical (Fuller WB 280)
(2) His Belief in Baptismal Regeneration. We maintain Baptismal Regeneration as the most important of doctrines, and later, Baptism assures us that we are children of God, members of Christ (Grady FA 229)
(3) Admitting His Ignorance of the Scripture (though about to correct it). But I am so ignorant of Hebrew and, what is worse, of the Greek text of the N.T., that I have all but discarded them. Then in 1851, Think of that vile Textus Receptus leaning entirely on late MSS.; it is a blessing there are such early ones. (Grady FA 245)
(4) Writing to Westcott (1860) Regarding Darwins Origin of Species. Have you read Darwin? How I should like to talk with you about it! In spite of difficulties, I am inclined to think it unanswerable. In any case it is a treat to read such a book. (Grady FA 231)
(5) His Statement that Vicarious Atonement is Heresy (1860). Nothing could be more unscriptural than the modern limiting of Christs bearing our sins and sufferings to his death; but indeed that is only one aspect of an almost universal heresy (Fuller FA 281)
(6) His Further Disagreement With Biblical Salvation. I do not see how Gods justice can be satisfied without every mans suffering in his own person the full penalty for his sins. (Grady FA 233)
(7) His Enmity Towards the United States (the American Civil War had began in 1861). Icannot say that I see much as yet to soften my deep hatred of democracy and it cannot be wrong to desire and pray from the bottom of ones heart that the American Union may be shivered to pieces. (Grady FA 241-2)
(8) His Writing in1864, to Westcott). He declares that Protestantism is only parenthetical and temporary. And, Perfect Catholicity has been nowhere since the Reformation. (Fuller WB 279)
(9) His Writing in1865, to Westcott. He says that I have been persuaded for many years that Mary-worship and Jesus-worship have very much in common in their causes and results. (Fuller WB 279)
(10) Regarding the Secrecy of their Project. He wrote, Also-but this may be cowardice-I have a sort of craving that our text should be cast upon the world before we deal with matters likely to brand us with suspicion. I mean, a text, issued by men already known for what will undoubtedly be treated as dangerous heresy, will have great difficulties in finding its way to regions which it might not hope otherwise to reach, (Grady FA 248) .
(11) His Rejection of the Literal Truth of the Bible. I am inclined to think that no such state as Eden (I mean the popular notion) ever existed, (Fuller WB 280)
