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        <![CDATA[ You guys who know about the NASB and the manuscripts used in translating it, could you help me out? Why does the NASB read &quot;a little lower than God&quot;
in Psalm 8:5 where the KJV and NKJV read &quot;a little lower than the angels&quot;? The NIV and ESV read &quot;a little lower than the heavenly beings.&quot;


Is the reason because the word elohim is used, which can be translated as &quot;gods&quot; or &quot;deities&quot;?


Thanks! ]]>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">StevenAvery wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">Hi Folks,</span>
  <br>

  <blockquote>
    <strong class="quote-title">HoLogos wrote:</strong>
    <hr>
    Here is a fine example of the dishonesty, inconsistency, and hypocrisy of KJV onlyists. The Septuagint is a myth and worthless, unless it is the only
    support for a KJV rendering, then the Septuagint is great! KJV onlyists are the laughingstock of Christianity. I am... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ In the print, the NASB has a margin note &quot;Or Angels&quot; <span style="font-style: italic;">Heb: Elohim</span>.
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			<link>http://bibleversiondiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/43135/t/Psalm-8-5-in-KJV-and-NASB.html#reply-43135</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Actually, Avery, you came to the KJVO myth by believing a man-made false doctrine derived from a CULT OFFICIAL&#39;S book. Try as you might, you cannot really
defend it. You are stumped by its total lacka SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT.
<br>
<br>
You tryta act like a scholar, but your overall theme is that of one who&#39;s stuck neck-deep in error. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">Hi Folks,</span>
<br>

<blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">HoLogos wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
   I didn&#39;t read your posts in this thread before I posted, and I guess that is a mistake.
  <br>
</blockquote><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">It would have been good to do that before falsely accusing ... better late than never.  I will take the above
as being as close to an apology as you are capable of when you rail against a King James Bible... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Hi Steven, I just now skimmed your posts.  I generally don&#39;t read your posts.  I didn&#39;t read your posts in this thread before I posted, and I guess
that is a mistake.  My &quot;railing&quot; was about KJV onlyists in general, not about your posts.  And what I said is generally true.
<br>
<br>
You appealed to non-LXX support for &quot;angels&quot; as a translation of Elohim.  Fine.  What I said is true of KJV onlyists in general.
<br>
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Still, you are guilty of justifying every... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Try this one then:
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			<description><![CDATA[ <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">Hi Folks,</span>
<br>

<blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">mko wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  The normal Gallican is at the bottom.
</blockquote><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">I&#39;ve tried your URL on post 30 in a few browsers, and only see a bunch of links at the bottom <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif"> .
<br>
<br>
Shalom,
<br>
Steven
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			<description><![CDATA[ <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">Hi Folks,</span>
<br>

<blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">HoLogos wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  Here is a fine example of the dishonesty, inconsistency, and hypocrisy of KJV onlyists. The Septuagint is a myth and worthless, unless it is the only support
  for a KJV rendering, then the Septuagint is great! KJV onlyists are the laughingstock of Christianity. I am ashamed they claim to be the same religion as I.
  <br>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">Hi Folks,</span>
<br>

<blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">mko wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  I was quoting from one of the PD Vg texts, one that has both the Juxta Hebraica and the Gallican (LXX-derived) psalter, adding in punctuation. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.speedbible.com/vulgate/B19C008.htm"></a><a href="http://www.speedbible.com/vulgate/B19C008.htm">http://www.speedbible.com/vulgate/B19C008.htm</a> There&#39;s several versions here. I... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Here is a fine example of the dishonesty, inconsistency, and hypocrisy of KJV onlyists.  The Septuagint is a myth and worthless, unless it is the only support
for a KJV rendering, then the Septuagint is great!
<br>
<br>
KJV onlyists are the laughingstock of Christianity.  I am ashamed they claim to be the same religion as I.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I was quoting from one of the PD Vg texts, one that has both the Juxta Hebraica and the Gallican (LXX-derived) psalter, adding in punctuation.
<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.speedbible.com/vulgate/B19C008.htm">http://www.speedbible.com/vulgate/B19C008.htm</a>
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There&#39;s several versions here. I think this is ultimately taken from the Stuttgart Vulgate? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">Hi Folks,</span>
<br>
<br>
<font color="#800000">John Gill
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&quot;the word is rendered &quot;angels&quot; by the Chaldee paraphrase, the Septuagint interpreters, the Jewish commentators, Aben Ezra, Jarchi, Kimchi, and
Ben Melech, and in the Arabic, Syriac, and Ethiopic versions, and above all by the author of the epistle to the Hebrews, it is best to interpret it of them:
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			<description><![CDATA[ Thanks, MKO! ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I found a copy of Jerome&#39;s &quot;Juxta Hebraica&quot; translation into Latin that didn&#39;t fly because people preferred the LXX-based Gallican...
<br>
<br>
&quot;Quid est homo quoniam recordaris eius vel filius hominis quoniam visitas eum? minues eum <strong>paulo minus a Deo</strong>, gloria et decore coronabis
eum&quot;
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&quot;What is a man, that thou rememberest him, or the son of man, that thou visitest him? Thou makest him <strong>a bit less than God</strong> and with... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif" alt="image"> Or gave up on you.
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			<description><![CDATA[ <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">Hi Folks,</span>
<br>

<blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Tatermonkey wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
   Even in Hebrew , you cant have it both ways with one word then the two seperate words exist.
  <br>
</blockquote><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">Yes, Tater, it is fully understood that you ignored the whole thread with the Jewish Hebrew-based
translations and the b-hebrew posters and the NT usage and the DSS and such.  That is why I asked if any... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Kinda leaves only one conclusion. Paul used the LXX. In Hebrew we have Elohiym primarily meaning God and Mal&#39;ak meaning messenger of God / Angel. Even in
Hebrew , you cant have it both ways with one word then the two seperate words exist.
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">StevenAvery wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">Hi Folks,</span>
  <br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">
  <br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">
  <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">As I asked, anybody other than Tater ?</span>
  <br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">
  <br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">
  <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">(Sometimes you simply give up on somebody as hopelessly enmeshed..)</span>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">Hi Folks,</span>
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);"> As I asked, anybody other than Tater ?</span>
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">(Sometimes you simply give up on somebody as hopelessly enmeshed..)</span>
<br>
<br>

<blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Tatermonkey wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  This verse... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ You guys who know about the NASB and the manuscripts used in translating it, could you help me out? Why does the NASB read &quot;a little lower than God&quot;
in Psalm 8:5 where the KJV and NKJV read &quot;a little lower than the angels&quot;? The NIV and ESV read &quot;a little lower than the heavenly beings.&quot;
<br>
<br>
Is the reason because the word <em>elohim</em> is used, which can be translated as &quot;gods&quot; or &quot;deities&quot;?
<br>
<br>
Thanks! ]]></description>

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